this present system is definitely finished.
the present system being the anglo-american dollar dominated system.
it is in the final stages of collapse as is becoming more obvious by the day.
You Know,
Do mean Your Twisted versions of Bible prophecies where there really isn't any Bible Prophecy.
Verses that you say talk not about future events, but for the most part they have aready happened a long time ago and don't even point to some future 2nd fulfillment.
I don't take seriously any one who claims to interpet Scripture and know when the end is comming been there do that once with the Big WT.
Fooled me once shame on you, fooled me twice shame on me.
this is a piece i posted on h20 some time ago.
it was so well-recieved at the time that i thought i would repost it here for your enjoyment.. ______________________________________________________________________.
the uninitiated reader of course naturally assumes that satan would be the master of deception, but in actuality, while he is the malevolent arch-deceiver, jehovah is actually the master.
You Know,
I meant ID as reguards your posts.
Does the WT really Know you post on this Forum?
the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.
the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.
and he proceeds to call the earth.
Dear Mon Capitan You Know,
You said:
You are denying the fact that the 1st century congregation had authority to "hand over to Satan" any who were judged as blasphemers or apostates. That authority to judge is from Christ.
Don't you realize that the Catholic church can you that very same reasoning to justify their actions too?
Like I said, I correspond frequently with brothers at Bethel. They know my name, address, phone number, congregation, and all that stuff. In all the years they have never felt the need to examine me. I am sure though that if I started bring up the hot-button topics dear to apostates that there would be an inquirey. Like I said, it all goes to intention.
At least you admit you have to be very careful that what you write is in no way critical of the WT org.. I'm sure there are things you would like to bring up but are afraid to because of the repercussions that will come upon your person.
Also I'm sure that you don't tell them you are visiting this site, and posting all these prediction that are out of harmomy with the WT.
from the july 1, 2003 watchtower article "righteous requirements":.
.. the kingdom of god is the highest government anyone can serve.
how does jehovah issue the call to his people?
Alan,
You've got mind control in them thar words.
the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.
the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.
and he proceeds to call the earth.
You Know,
You really gotta send this one to WT headquarters.
They need guys like you.
Your annointed, so they really gotta have you on the writting department at the very least if not the GB.
Hey send this one off to Bethel and tell us what happens your wasting your genius on us.
I could just see it now, "You Know the GB member".
Remember one of your last posts, Russia goes for the gold? Why don't you go for the Gold and present your self to the GB, the need you.
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the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.
the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.
" that means over half leave permanently.
Maximus,
Years ago when my children were still teenagers we used to invite the other children in the JW's to our family WT study, we actually had quite a crowd every saturday nite.
We used to breeze through the WT, keep it to a hour max, then we'd just have fun(sing, play guitar, games and what ever). Our house was alway open and people would come and go.
Of coarse I did get flack from my fellow elders, because as I'm sure you know the Society doesn't like any kind of spiritual get to-gether that isn't officially of their making.
But since I was an elder the brothers let it slide.
And I'm sure you know how the Society feel about large gatherings that don't have the strictest supervision. They really do their best to discourage it.
Their were brothers and sisters that kinda sponsered these gatherings(be it bowling or rollerskating) and usually were given counsel to not do it again.
So is it any wounder why so many youths are leaving?
All the WT wants is free labor from these kids, someone that will give up their time and future for the growth of the Organization and if they step out of line bang DF.
i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.
"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".
if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?
Shelby,
If Jesus died for us who are sinners to get salvation, who died for the plants and animals that as you say are sometimes sinners when the don't do what God tells them?
this past weekend, one of the few remaining jw relatives who will still discuss jw stuff with me told me about his recently attending a home bible study being conducted by an elder.
evidently, the study had been told or had picked up some info about the 1975 fiasco.
the elder totally denied that the society had stated or even led people to believe that armageddon would occur in 1975, and he naturally blamed some individual jws for misinterpreting the society's materials.
You Know,
How can you be so thick in the head?
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The 1975 fiasco was totally predictable and inline with the premature expectations that the apostles continually suffered from. Even well into the apostolic era, there was the general expectation that Christ's return was imminent.
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Did the apostles predict a date and publish it to all the congreations, and hint to all that if they sold their homes and pioneered this is a good thing because the end was only months away?
Did they give a false hope based on chronology and faulty reasoning in oposition to Jesus words " that no man knows the day or hour not even the Son of man?
If they made any prediction it truly was by God's spirit and came true.
Did they keep telling everyone that the light would get brighter and brighter to cover up their mistakes?
Anyone can see there is a big difference between the apostles of Jesus's day and the GB of today.
those of us who are in the ranks of dedicated witnessess what are you doing or plan to do to influence the world around you spiritaully?
like swelling our ranks or being a personal demonstration of the truth?
nakedheartpoet,
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what your trying to say.
Can you please give me a little more idea what your trying to say?
this past weekend, one of the few remaining jw relatives who will still discuss jw stuff with me told me about his recently attending a home bible study being conducted by an elder.
evidently, the study had been told or had picked up some info about the 1975 fiasco.
the elder totally denied that the society had stated or even led people to believe that armageddon would occur in 1975, and he naturally blamed some individual jws for misinterpreting the society's materials.
I was baptized 1972.
I work for the PO of our cong. and I help him as he dug a hole with his Backhoe. He used it to hide a large supply of canned goods. He then built a shed over top of it and had a secret entrance thru the floor to get to his under ground stock pile.
I myself got a bunch of WT and rapped them in plastic and buried them in the woods, so I could have some spiritual food if the GT broke out and they took away all are literature.
Boy was I a idiot.
